Upload Feedback Thread (post here if your uploads are deleted)

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Iroshi said:

well, 2nd one was likely given out 1 'poor quality' due to hand/finger issues; zoom to see the thumb, at the root it looks ok, but then it extends and 'curls beyond' as if it was an index finger

as for the 1st one, things are more hopeful, because it is better to get a deletion that only has 'disinterest' than 1 or more 'poor quality'; but please also note that getting 0 deletions overall is a very rare feat, so u should not anxiety urself for that

Oops, I didn't even notice... Thank you for the feedback!

selloak said:

Were post #155792 and post #155793 deleted because of some inaccuracy, or because the artist doesn't qualify? Because on Danbooru, 0ldd0r0thy is blacklisted as AI generated, so I thought it's OK

if a post isn't AI, it would get the 'breaks rules' rejection reason, and likely also be manually deleted as described in off-topic
as for artifacts/proof, at least in the 2nd i see an odd line in a pinky finger; and the eyebrows lines in the yellow eyes girls is cut also; but nothing egregious

eyeviewer said:

Well now I didn't expect half of the set I uploaded to go nearly unnoticed. I don't think I'll be able to appeal all the posts at once so...

https://aibooru.online/uploads/317897/assets

If there are doubts on whether this content is ai-generated, it is. It got deleted on danbooru before I noticed and one image even got accidentally approved there.

@eyeviewer

well, u can see in the pixiv source he posts very frequently (every 2-3 days), sets of multiple pics, all with 'perfect' style, most r18, multiple copyrights... those are signs of AI industry; normal good artists are not that prolific even if fully employed on that, because they need rest

i am seeing some random censorship that only AI would do, namely:
post #157680 censor on the thigh strap
post #157679, post #157682 & post #157678 censor on the fingers (!!!)
(that last one in particular also has extra finger issue)

well, he left those artifacts in, meaning he is sloppy still, would need more post-processing and refinement to achieve the higher quality this website ideally seeks; at least it is fun to see artifacted random body parts as the machine failed to grasp the rules of censorship

even though post #157681 also has bleeding censorship, at least it is in the correct 'area' so it does not seem as random and egregious artifacting

i would recommend u find an artist who is more refined than him

by the way, the link u provided is invisible for other users

Looking for your feedback and help:

Things were fine, my stuff got approved, but very recently things changed and recently almost none of my stuff gets approved - which makes me quite unhappy...

Asking for feedback because I'm not aware things changed on my side. Please have a look https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=user%3ADarkerShadeOfPale+status%3Adeleted and help me out...

Most of the Images got a fair number of upvotes, and no downvotes at all. Subjects and topics may be "explicit" but similar or same subjects of other user were approved in the very same timeframe.

Since "reject" banners did not contain any useable info I'm quite puzzled...

eyeviewer said:

Well now I didn't expect half of the set I uploaded to go nearly unnoticed. I don't think I'll be able to appeal all the posts at once so...

https://aibooru.online/uploads/317897/assets

If there are doubts on whether this content is ai-generated, it is. It got deleted on danbooru before I noticed and one image even got accidentally approved there.

yeah that link is private. you can either share the post links or the media asset links.

Mike_Smith said:

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I didn't even know you guys had a discord, and still have no idea how to find it. And I appreciate your compliments on my tagging. I put a good amount of work into that. I mean sure I used an AI autotagger, but I had to manually adjust it to fit your format since they all give tags in a comma separated list, and your system doesn't like that format. It's a minor annoyance, but still one that is extra painful when my images don't even get approved. I feel like I did all that work for nothing. I am working on improving my work, but I don't feel like I'm going to continue posting here. The way you guys treat new users here is way too harsh. Not you personally, but both Lyren and Iroshi before you, as well as whoever it was that manually deleted one of my posts, have been far to harsh with me for me to be comfortable continuing to post here. The fact that an actual admin like Lyren would be so toxic really rubs me the wrong way. I will most likely be making a local booru on my machine for just me, and maybe will try and make a second AIbooru to compete with this site, one that doesn't have quite as high of standards, and that instead actually has booru quantity. 150k images is barely a booru if you ask me. This site focuses too might on quality at the expense of quantity. Gelbooru has nearly 13M images! You guys have barely 150k images. That's like 1% of what they have.

I don’t know about everyone else, but I mainly look at images here to see what models and prompts were used, so for me quality over quantity makes sense. Also, this is AI art—we all have quantity over quality at home.

I want an explanation as to why these posts were not approved? Somehow only one image of the gallery was approved.

post #157831

Most of the Images got a fair number of upvotes, and no downvotes at all. Subjects and topics may be "explicit" but one image out of my entire set was approved.

Explain why this post was unapproved too. Either reject or accept my appeal. I want genuine feedback because I'm baffled.

post #31004

TotalAnarchy said:

I want an explanation as to why these posts were not approved? Somehow only one image of the gallery was approved.

post #157831

Most of the Images got a fair number of upvotes, and no downvotes at all. Subjects and topics may be "explicit" but one image out of my entire set was approved.

Explain why this post was unapproved too. Either reject or accept my appeal. I want genuine feedback because I'm baffled.

post #31004

@TotalAnarchy your 'set' is actually only 2 imgs, not 4
post #157830 is effectively an inferior res. duplicate of its approved parent
post #157833 is the same case (got to approve the parent)

so only 2 'real' imgs, u need to select the superior ones from the start (higher res and same details)
also score is not the definitive metric that makes a post approved, but 'quality'

btw the last post u linked is already approved from longtime ago, why u mention it? no issue there

and remember to use your artist tag in ur gens (totalanarchy) bc self-upload does not suffice

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update: looking more into ur uploads, it seems u sometimes have a small penchant for doing pointless duplicates that do not add value to the website

post #139090 was uplodaded earlier and is the superior version of post #139092, making the latter a duplicate; only the 1st should have been uploaded and the other should have costed a deletion

similar situation with post #156452 and its child post #156450 (which was parented incorrecntly bc the superior one should be the parent)

and in another set, post #156557 is essentially a later revision of the earlier post #155980; and the same relationship with post #156558 as a revision of the older post #155968
for this last case, if u upload small revisions of images u created and already uploaded, u should instead request a replacement in the forum (topic #172); that way u can avoid some eyesore clutter

for the other cases, u should just upload the superior single version from the start (higher res), bc the lower res is unlikely to be better quality if it's visually the same (and thus does not deserve to pass)

Updated by Iroshi

TotalAnarchy said:

I want an explanation as to why these posts were not approved? Somehow only one image of the gallery was approved.

post #157831

Most of the Images got a fair number of upvotes, and no downvotes at all. Subjects and topics may be "explicit" but one image out of my entire set was approved.

Explain why this post was unapproved too. Either reject or accept my appeal. I want genuine feedback because I'm baffled.

post #31004

So like, do I not get a response? What's even the point of posting here if content doesn't get approved and I can't get any feedback on why.

DarkerShadeOfPale said:

Looking for your feedback and help:

Things were fine, my stuff got approved, but very recently things changed and recently almost none of my stuff gets approved - which makes me quite unhappy...

Asking for feedback because I'm not aware things changed on my side. Please have a look https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=user%3ADarkerShadeOfPale+status%3Adeleted and help me out...

Most of the Images got a fair number of upvotes, and no downvotes at all. Subjects and topics may be "explicit" but similar or same subjects of other user were approved in the very same timeframe.

Since "reject" banners did not contain any useable info I'm quite puzzled...

No answer for a week, so what is the point of this forum?

DarkerShadeOfPale said:

No answer for a week, so what is the point of this forum?

Agreed. I came to this site with the hopes of being able to use it as a place to upload all my uncensored stuff, instead of having to split it between r34.xxx, paheal, and atfbooru, but the approval process here is a joke. I get having standards so that this place doesn't get overrun with stereotypical AI slop, but I feel like the approval process here comes down to personal feelings, and not based on quality or rule compliance. One of my failed uploads here was apparently reviewed by 5-10 people but never got approved, but that same upload got nearly 300 likes over on atf.

Also it seems like there's no point in even asking in this thread about it, cause it's doubtful that you'll get any kind of response.

@Blknyght01 you only got 3 deletions with 31 uploads, the ratio is not too bad
i do not understand your complaint, unless you intend to have the 'perfect' record of 0 deletions, in which case you are in for a road of pain, because such cases are exceedingly rare
everyone has taken some deletion at some point, or will take, but this does not impede them to continue improving the site with good pics (if they have the growth mindset)

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now about the complaint of 'this thread is useless':
that is like saying 'the medical system does not save 100% of lives, why even keep it?'
better to have something in place that saves some lives (like 60% saved), than have nothing and everyone who is sick dies (0% saved)

i say it before, but i say it again (forum #5025, forum #5035, forum #5042; "time is limited, it should be for good things, not bad times")
complaining is a trait observed exclusively on newbies; pr0s never complain, they always focus how to play better
and the newbie complaint is born from arrogance, that he thinks he is no.1 in his bronze league, that it is his team who lose, not his fault

but well, at the end of the day, this is 1st world problem
nobody is forcing you to play this game, and it is not for everyone
so if you are unhappy with it, you can 'uninstall' and play other game
one that makes you happy, where you are never challenged out of the comfort zone, get instant pleasure with a button, no efforts

look at him, he got 2605 uploads and never complained
even if he is merely builder-rank and is limited, he is actually a pr0
because he is here to serve the public interest, not to complain
besides, he understands that his slots can never be 0, the minimum is always 5
so in the long run, this is an infinite potential; and there he is going still, bravely like a hero; arguably he is more pr0 than me, so i praise him

you 2 are human,but remember that even if this is AI website, the people who manage it are human also
and that this is all voluntary, too; your contributions are, and our contributions are; 'all this suffering is unpaid'

by the way, i need to remind you the 'terms' that you 'agreed to' by creating your account (meaning 'you signed up for this')
so if you disagree, perhaps you should take it more slowly for a while, or stop
it is critical information about the approval process (quoted from help:upload):

AIBooru Quality: Posting Guidelines

Thank you for donating your spare time to help the AIBooru collection grow. While we need a constant supply of new images to keep our collection fresh and up to date, we must make it clear that AIBooru has stricter quality standards compared to most galleries of its kind.

Before you upload your first image, please keep in mind that not everything you upload might be approved.
While we understand that quality can be an extremely subjective measure, and we cannot exactly define what "good enough" means, you can browse the gallery of approved posts to get an idea of what is acceptable. You can see those posts here: status:active approver:any.

AIBooru is Subjective

We know that it can seem unfair at times that we judge images on quality, which is of course a subjective value. But we do this because this method works for AIBooru and pleases the majority of the userbase. Don't take it personal if one or more of your uploads don't get approved. We've all been there, just live and learn [...]

Blknyght01 said:

Agreed. I came to this site with the hopes of being able to use it as a place to upload all my uncensored stuff, instead of having to split it between r34.xxx, paheal, and atfbooru, but the approval process here is a joke. I get having standards so that this place doesn't get overrun with stereotypical AI slop, but I feel like the approval process here comes down to personal feelings, and not based on quality or rule compliance. One of my failed uploads here was apparently reviewed by 5-10 people but never got approved, but that same upload got nearly 300 likes over on atf.

Also it seems like there's no point in even asking in this thread about it, cause it's doubtful that you'll get any kind of response.

Well the most discouraging thing is the lack of feedback and the and obvious disparity between audience agreement and approver agreement. (Would be interesting to datamine that correlation)

I can live with subjective approval, and for a while it was quite OK, but lately it feels completely random. :(

Again, any feedback would be most welcome and helpful.

scorchx3000 said:

You know what? I'm fucking done! You can all kiss my sweaty fat arse.

I was directed here from Danbooru because I did AI art. They were rude, arrogant pricks.

I come here, to find that it's just as bad, you submit artwork, it gets ignored and deleted. You want feedback? Get staff who give a damn about the artists.

You know what? Ok!

Notes on site activity related to original content

Like many other here in this thread I was looking for answers, but did not get anything helpful.

So, in order to better understand the Sites dynamics I datamined AIBooru using the information publicly available to users.

I did this solely with focus on creators, users who are uploading original content.

Here is a quick recap of the pas 90 day activity:

The total activity for the pas 90 days was 8943 Posts with roughly 20% deleted.
But only around one fifth of these posts are original content:

In Boorus there are basically three groups of user roles.

Users who can upload content without approval, and who can also approve other users posts.
Lets call them "Approvers". User roles would be eg. ("Approver, Admin ...)

User who can upload content without approval, bit cannot approve other users posts.
Lets call them "Contributors"

Everyone else (who needs approval by an approver). Lets call them "Users".

For the first two groups lets have a look at their upload activity.

I have also included Average Score. Green means above Average, Red means below average.

Roughly one third of original content is uploaded by these 21 users.

Everyone else needs approval from an Approver:

Two thirds of original content is created by 109 Users.

Their posts are approved by 15 Approvers.

However, the distribution is highly uneven.

Also: Note how the average score of approved postings deviates from the overall average.

So, the problem is not the number of 15 Approvers doing approval for original content.

The problem is 5 people doing 75% of the work.

Which makes things very fragile, and causes non-approvals for the single reason of "not enough resources".

At this point: A big thank to those Approvers at the top of this list, your extra work keeps the site alive!

This also means:

Preferrably: Add another 10 Approvers, the sooner the better.

Or if you absolutely do not want to have more Approvers: Replace those at the bottom of the list, doing only 5% of the work.

so the problem is people who are trusted to approve are busy with real life and can't check posts?

according to asset #621364 there exists 1000 posts by users that need approval in 90 days approved by 15 approval users no?

i understand everything is very personal bias, but to me alone i do not think the ratio of approvers to actual posts is too bad if I am reading this data correctly.

myapocalypse said:

so the problem is people who are trusted to approve are busy with real life and can't check posts?

according to asset #621364 there exists 1000 posts by users that need approval in 90 days approved by 15 approval users no?

i understand everything is very personal bias, but to me alone i do not think the ratio of approvers to actual posts is too bad if I am reading this data correctly.

I post fox girl loli dark skinned female semi furry btw things that are niche to say the best and hated to say the worst

also mods are fucking gay and they still won't tell who programmed site permissions (jk ily <3)

Updated by myapocalypse

@DarkerShadeOfPale I appreciate you for compiling the data. Data is always cool to see. I don't know what you decided to call original content though. Self uploads? Or literally original?

On the subject of approvers, I don't think we don't have enough really, it's just that the ones that are the most active have similar tastes and largely skip content that doest appeal to them. I was usually filling the need for niche content approvals I think, but lately I haven't been active on the site as much, I just moved on to other projects. And when I do get to approving once in a while, I prioritize actually approving posts in the queue over answering in this thread because it's both easier and I think it has a bigger impact. In the past I would get through all the posts in the queue and then come here to answer when I still had time. Now I don't have enough time to get through 10% of the mod queue.

I'm not going to shame other approvers for approving based on taste though, they are doing this for fun, not out of obligation. But I think it would be great to let them know that it's fine to judge objectively and not follow the default advice one gets when becoming an approver, "approve what you would likely post yourself."

But in the end, more approvers would naturally mean more diverse tastes and less posts to go through per person. So yeah, I'm joining the petition, I just doubt it will change anything. Yes, I'm still salty about AI tagger results being hidden from the api.

antlers_anon said:

@DarkerShadeOfPale I appreciate you for compiling the data. Data is always cool to see. I don't know what you decided to call original content though. Self uploads? Or literally original?

On the subject of approvers, I don't think we don't have enough really, it's just that the ones that are the most active have similar tastes and largely skip content that doest appeal to them. I was usually filling the need for niche content approvals I think, but lately I haven't been active on the site as much, I just moved on to other projects. And when I do get to approving once in a while, I prioritize actually approving posts in the queue over answering in this thread because it's both easier and I think it has a bigger impact. In the past I would get through all the posts in the queue and then come here to answer when I still had time. Now I don't have enough time to get through 10% of the mod queue.

I'm not going to shame other approvers for approving based on taste though, they are doing this for fun, not out of obligation. But I think it would be great to let them know that it's fine to judge objectively and not follow the default advice one gets when becoming an approver, "approve what you would likely post yourself."

But in the end, more approvers would naturally mean more diverse tastes and less posts to go through per person. So yeah, I'm joining the petition, I just doubt it will change anything. Yes, I'm still salty about AI tagger results being hidden from the api.

Looking at the data I have chosen to use the "original" tag as discriminator.

(Btw, it would also be fun to compute the the set of tags that should result in the highest score)

myapocalypse said:

so the problem is people who are trusted to approve are busy with real life and can't check posts?

according to asset #621364 there exists 1000 posts by users that need approval in 90 days approved by 15 approval users no?

i understand everything is very personal bias, but to me alone i do not think the ratio of approvers to actual posts is too bad if I am reading this data correctly.

Yes. For the subset of posts tagged "original", during the last 90-day period 15 approvers worked through 992 approved posts.

These numbers seem quite fine. The Problem is: The top 5 (most active) approvers did 76.5% of the work, the bottom 5 (least active approvers) did 4.7% of the approval.

Or put another way: If one or more of the top 5 drop out temporarily, then your posts simply won't be approved.

The way I read the numbers: For smooth operation it needs around 10 additional users in the approver role.

"Smooth operation" also means this should be fun for everyone. Relaxed approvers produce better approvals :)

antlers_anon said:

@DarkerShadeOfPale I appreciate you for compiling the data. Data is always cool to see. I don't know what you decided to call original content though. Self uploads? Or literally original?

On the subject of approvers, I don't think we don't have enough really, it's just that the ones that are the most active have similar tastes and largely skip content that doest appeal to them.

The problem is, personal bias should not be impacting someones decision making, especially when their bias is ruining something for someone else. I've saw a lot of great stuff on here and Gerbooru flagged and deleted for no reason and some absolute slop gets through.

DarkerShadeOfPale, I appreicate the data and writeup.
I think you're right about approvals tanking if any of the top 5 approvers take a break.
Your proposed solution of adding more active approvers makes sense but unfortunately is not feasible as there haven't been any suitable users to promote.

Lyren said:

The eye, collar and the top part of the thigh tattoo have some AI artifacting, and the whole image has a lot of jpeg artifacts. I recommend getting better quality than compressed webp for your images. It was good enough though so I approved it.

What’s better quality than webp?
Also, what was wrong with this one?
post #158433

Joleo9 said:

What’s better quality than webp?
Also, what was wrong with this one?
post #158433

I'm not an expert with the ratios of quality VS file size, but most modern devices should have enough space for the good old PNG.

As for the post, aside from compression artifacts the only problem I spot is the spikes on her collar. Leftmost blends into the collar and couple of the other ones are weirdly shaped.

Howdy! I got a 3 images deleted because of disinterest. (Parent of the images: post #159997 )

I understand not every image is gonna get through, just how it is with creations!
My question more lies with what was causing the general disinterest, so I can try and improve in those sectors. It wont be a magic tool to having all future posts approved, just helps get me on the right track!

Im quite new to AI generating, especially inpainting, so any guidance in improving my output would be greatly appreciated!

rouzen said:

Howdy! I got a 3 images deleted because of disinterest. (Parent of the images: post #159997 )

I understand not every image is gonna get through, just how it is with creations!
My question more lies with what was causing the general disinterest, so I can try and improve in those sectors. It wont be a magic tool to having all future posts approved, just helps get me on the right track!

Im quite new to AI generating, especially inpainting, so any guidance in improving my output would be greatly appreciated!

Parent image and post #160000 seem fine so I undeleted them. Maybe the gun is a bit scuffed on both but with my limited knowledge they looked fine enough.

post #159998 - extra finger/bad hands, and the gun looks off as well.

As for tips you could try to ask in the AIBooru Discord.

Lyren said:

Parent image and post #160000 seem fine so I undeleted them. Maybe the gun is a bit scuffed on both but with my limited knowledge they looked fine enough.

post #159998 - extra finger/bad hands, and the gun looks off as well.

As for tips you could try to ask in the AIBooru Discord.

Yeah, I noticed some models dont handle guns too well, so understandable! and I completely didnt notice that extra finger, I gotta be more mindful with that. but good to know, thank you for the discord!

@Joleo9

What’s better quality than webp?

Format is not an issue, high levels of lossy compression are. Saving as an 80% quality webp is going to have way more artifacts than jpeg at 100% and no subsampling. But webp has a lossless compression option as well, in which case it will have quality equivalent to png. Just make sure your software saves as either png, lossless webp, or high quality (95%+) lossy webp/jpeg.

I'd like to hear your opinion on which version looks more natural, to decide whether the replacement is needed or not. I’ve been staring at this image for so long while editing that my brain just doesn't register it anymore. Now I'm not even sure if I need to make any changes to it — both versions look right in their own way. I hope my request fits in this thread.

post #161967
asset #634768

Updated by konny

@antlers_anon
Thanks for your reply!

@TheSwordUser
If I can be of help to you, the initial generations are rarely detailed and often result in poor pupils, smudged skin, and so on. But this problem is easily solved using Inpaint with the settings “Inpaint area: Only masked” and a Denoising strength of around 0.55. Just select the necessary area, like the head or hands, and it will be re-rendered in high resolution. This will improve the overall quality of your images. Here's an example: asset #635238
It’s best to avoid things like “crowd” in tags since Illustrious and its derivatives don’t handle them well. But if a crowd is necessary, try to make sure only the general outlines are visible post #157676. Or use newer models.
A broken horizon is a standard issue with Illustrious; it cannot be fixed with Inpaint, only manually.

post #160601 Unfortunately, this image cannot be saved without removing part of the crowd in the foreground and background. Inpaint is also used for this, but with a high Denoising strength. I'd say don't get hung up on images like that — you can always generate new ones.

konny said:

@antlers_anon
Thanks for your reply!

@TheSwordUser
If I can be of help to you, the initial generations are rarely detailed and often result in poor pupils, smudged skin, and so on. But this problem is easily solved using Inpaint with the settings “Inpaint area: Only masked” and a Denoising strength of around 0.55. Just select the necessary area, like the head or hands, and it will be re-rendered in high resolution. This will improve the overall quality of your images. Here's an example: asset #635238
It’s best to avoid things like “crowd” in tags since Illustrious and its derivatives don’t handle them well. But if a crowd is necessary, try to make sure only the general outlines are visible post #157676. Or use newer models.
A broken horizon is a standard issue with Illustrious; it cannot be fixed with Inpaint, only manually.

post #160601 Unfortunately, this image cannot be saved without removing part of the crowd in the foreground and background. Inpaint is also used for this, but with a high Denoising strength. I'd say don't get hung up on images like that — you can always generate new ones.

I appreciate the input, though I don't use photoshop to edit the results. I'm not familiarized with mentioned functions. I'll try to look up for workable plug ins for GIMP or some other free alternative and see if I could get similar function to work.

SpreddereAi said:

Two posts of mine werent improved in 3 days, despite being looked at by 5 approvers. And i dont understand why. The quality isnt bad and the pictures shouldnt go against any rules

#162906
#162905

@Diffusyaga

  • post #162283 – she looks deformed somehow, there isn't any one thing that is bad enough not to approve, but the combination of hes toes, left breast being bigger, right hip sticking out, left arm being slightly off, right hand having extra yellow pieces, etc is overall a problem.

@SpreddereAi
I generally try to approve based on errors alone, but I just find both of these images really off-putting. It seems like other approvers felt similar. It's not even about the cellulite on Tsunade's bottom. Shading/colors are weird, feet and hands look to small compared to the asses, objects around them look like they were just flat PNGs pasted there, shadows don't make much sense, and so on.

Hey all, I wasn't sure where to ask but is there a thread or a way somewhere to link an image for a mods attention before officially posting it, to see if it go against the rules or not, or is it better to just post it if I think it might be okay?

Also, wasn't going to check this yet, but seems as I came here with a query already...
post #163091
Totally cool if nobody wants to approve it. I just think its the best Rouge that we have on here right now; its a clean image with great pose.

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